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		<title>By: Mark Silver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Silver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Catherine- You are making sense, and I think I get what you mean by &quot;stomach resistance.&quot; I think it&#039;s important to distinguish between making decisions for clients, which I would never advocate anyone doing, versus withholding your wisdom and experience, or offering it in a way that doesn&#039;t carry you strength, conviction and passion with it.

People can find the answers within themselves- but only if they know the options and the potential consequences of those options. I want to support you in never trying to over-ride a client&#039;s own wisdom and guidance. But, they should make informed choices, too.

Your clients just don&#039;t know what you know. And internal wisdom and guidance can sometimes be way off in the absence of knowledge. If client doesn&#039;t know that it could take three months to work on something, they could feel frustrated or bad about themselves if it doesn&#039;t resolve in two weeks

Giving them your opinion and perspective is a bit of mercy for them. Don&#039;t with hold that mercy.

If you&#039;re still feeling resistance and/or collapse around it, I would recommend ;-) getting some help in looking at what you are reacting to in it. I&#039;m thinking there is a place of strength and sovereignty within you that could use some love and support.

Does what I&#039;m writing resonate with you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Catherine- You are making sense, and I think I get what you mean by &#8220;stomach resistance.&#8221; I think it&#8217;s important to distinguish between making decisions for clients, which I would never advocate anyone doing, versus withholding your wisdom and experience, or offering it in a way that doesn&#8217;t carry you strength, conviction and passion with it.</p>
<p>People can find the answers within themselves- but only if they know the options and the potential consequences of those options. I want to support you in never trying to over-ride a client&#8217;s own wisdom and guidance. But, they should make informed choices, too.</p>
<p>Your clients just don&#8217;t know what you know. And internal wisdom and guidance can sometimes be way off in the absence of knowledge. If client doesn&#8217;t know that it could take three months to work on something, they could feel frustrated or bad about themselves if it doesn&#8217;t resolve in two weeks</p>
<p>Giving them your opinion and perspective is a bit of mercy for them. Don&#8217;t with hold that mercy.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re still feeling resistance and/or collapse around it, I would recommend <img src='http://www.heartofbusiness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  getting some help in looking at what you are reacting to in it. I&#8217;m thinking there is a place of strength and sovereignty within you that could use some love and support.</p>
<p>Does what I&#8217;m writing resonate with you?</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark -

I am a bit late in reading this but would like to ask question. Thanks, first of all, it&#039;s really helpful.

I can truly say I&#039;ve had exactly the result you describe after saying, &#039;It&#039;s up to you,&quot; after my 2nd session with a client.  And yet I still have a bit of stomach resistance to the alternatives given to saying &quot;It&#039;s up to you.&quot;

I guess my brand or niche that I&#039;m working to refine and clarify has in part to do with people finding their own solutions and answers within themselves.  I really like to do decision making and exploring jointly.  I see your point totally and yet I&#039;m lost in there somewhere.  Am I making sense?

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Catherine´s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://fullcirclefacil.wordpress.com/2009/03/17/how-alberts-5-trick-can-get-you-going/&quot;&gt;How Albert’s 5% Trick Can Get You Going&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark -</p>
<p>I am a bit late in reading this but would like to ask question. Thanks, first of all, it&#8217;s really helpful.</p>
<p>I can truly say I&#8217;ve had exactly the result you describe after saying, &#8216;It&#8217;s up to you,&#8221; after my 2nd session with a client.  And yet I still have a bit of stomach resistance to the alternatives given to saying &#8220;It&#8217;s up to you.&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess my brand or niche that I&#8217;m working to refine and clarify has in part to do with people finding their own solutions and answers within themselves.  I really like to do decision making and exploring jointly.  I see your point totally and yet I&#8217;m lost in there somewhere.  Am I making sense?</p>
<p><abbr><em>Catherine´s last blog post..<a href="http://fullcirclefacil.wordpress.com/2009/03/17/how-alberts-5-trick-can-get-you-going/">How Albert’s 5% Trick Can Get You Going</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Judy Murdoch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy Murdoch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 16:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guess it depends on whether you plan to hire toddlers. lol Talk about starting your kids early in the family biz. Sheesh. But they&#039;ll probably work happily for Cheerios so there you go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guess it depends on whether you plan to hire toddlers. lol Talk about starting your kids early in the family biz. Sheesh. But they&#8217;ll probably work happily for Cheerios so there you go.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Silver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Silver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Judy- You mean we shouldn&#039;t use that in the new employee handbook we&#039;re writing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Judy- You mean we shouldn&#8217;t use that in the new employee handbook we&#8217;re writing?</p>
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		<title>By: Judy Murdoch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy Murdoch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is therefore instructive to remember

The Toddler&#039;s Creed

The &quot;Toddler&#039;s Creed&quot; appeared in the syndicated weekly newspaper article &quot;Families Today&quot; by T. Berry Brazelton. It is a nice reminder of the stresses we feel with normal behavior of toddlers. Enjoy.

    If I want it, it&#039;s mine.
    If I give it to you and change my mind later, it&#039;s mine.
    If I can take it away from you, it&#039;s mine.
    If I had it a little while ago, it&#039;s mine.
    If it&#039;s mine, it will never belong to anybody else, no matter what.
    If we are building something together, all the pieces are mine.
    If it looks just like mine, it is mine.
-- Dr. T. Berry Brazelton

Substitute &quot;ego&quot; and you have huge insight into human nature. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is therefore instructive to remember</p>
<p>The Toddler&#8217;s Creed</p>
<p>The &#8220;Toddler&#8217;s Creed&#8221; appeared in the syndicated weekly newspaper article &#8220;Families Today&#8221; by T. Berry Brazelton. It is a nice reminder of the stresses we feel with normal behavior of toddlers. Enjoy.</p>
<p>    If I want it, it&#8217;s mine.<br />
    If I give it to you and change my mind later, it&#8217;s mine.<br />
    If I can take it away from you, it&#8217;s mine.<br />
    If I had it a little while ago, it&#8217;s mine.<br />
    If it&#8217;s mine, it will never belong to anybody else, no matter what.<br />
    If we are building something together, all the pieces are mine.<br />
    If it looks just like mine, it is mine.<br />
&#8211; Dr. T. Berry Brazelton</p>
<p>Substitute &#8220;ego&#8221; and you have huge insight into human nature. <img src='http://www.heartofbusiness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mark Silver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Silver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@JoVE- I love that point. It reminds me of a business story I read somewhere of a woman who transitioned from running a daycare or something similar, to coordinating an annual conference for 300 CEOs. Someone asked her whether it was a very hard transition, and she answered (paraphrased from my poor memory): &quot;After working with 30 toddlers in a room, getting 300 CEOs to a conference is a snap.&quot;

@Melissa- Glad it helped! And, you are right- personality does come into play. I like working with the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/&quot;&gt;Enneagram&lt;/a&gt;.

And yet, there&#039;s no personality in the world who can assimilate a decade of learning in a month. :) I&#039;m glad this landed so well- I&#039;m interested to hear more about your project!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@JoVE- I love that point. It reminds me of a business story I read somewhere of a woman who transitioned from running a daycare or something similar, to coordinating an annual conference for 300 CEOs. Someone asked her whether it was a very hard transition, and she answered (paraphrased from my poor memory): &#8220;After working with 30 toddlers in a room, getting 300 CEOs to a conference is a snap.&#8221;</p>
<p>@Melissa- Glad it helped! And, you are right- personality does come into play. I like working with the <a href="http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/">Enneagram</a>.</p>
<p>And yet, there&#8217;s no personality in the world who can assimilate a decade of learning in a month. <img src='http://www.heartofbusiness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;m glad this landed so well- I&#8217;m interested to hear more about your project!</p>
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		<title>By: Melanie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 12:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the great post, Mark!

I can definitely see times when I&#039;ve been pulling out the kitchen sink and have sensed the client&#039;s overwhelm. Though on the other hand, I&#039;m a kitchen sink kind of client that likes to have a whole lot of stuff thrown at me... so personality certainly comes into play.  All the more reason for me to pay very close attention to this wisdom!

I love how you emphasized the importance of checking in with your heart. That can certainly make all the difference!

You&#039;ve also sparked some ideas on how I want to structure some of my initial offerings to clients, and I&#039;ve gained some clarity around a few things to cut out of my latest project in development.  (There&#039;s a kitchen sink hiding in there. Ack!)  Good stuff!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Melanie´s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AimForAbundance/~3/mh9mxIfSxgA/&quot;&gt;Manifesting Mondays on Twitter! #MaMo&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great post, Mark!</p>
<p>I can definitely see times when I&#8217;ve been pulling out the kitchen sink and have sensed the client&#8217;s overwhelm. Though on the other hand, I&#8217;m a kitchen sink kind of client that likes to have a whole lot of stuff thrown at me&#8230; so personality certainly comes into play.  All the more reason for me to pay very close attention to this wisdom!</p>
<p>I love how you emphasized the importance of checking in with your heart. That can certainly make all the difference!</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve also sparked some ideas on how I want to structure some of my initial offerings to clients, and I&#8217;ve gained some clarity around a few things to cut out of my latest project in development.  (There&#8217;s a kitchen sink hiding in there. Ack!)  Good stuff!</p>
<p><abbr><em>Melanie´s last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AimForAbundance/~3/mh9mxIfSxgA/">Manifesting Mondays on Twitter! #MaMo</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: JoVE</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoVE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mark on the toddler analogy. I first started contemplating my career change when my daughter was a toddler. At that time I was reading some books about management and some childcare books. It struck me that a lot of them were saying the same things.

For someone in your position, this might mean that what you know about business might be a good basis for dealing with the twins as they grow up. Communication. avoiding overwhelm. that sort of thing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mark on the toddler analogy. I first started contemplating my career change when my daughter was a toddler. At that time I was reading some books about management and some childcare books. It struck me that a lot of them were saying the same things.</p>
<p>For someone in your position, this might mean that what you know about business might be a good basis for dealing with the twins as they grow up. Communication. avoiding overwhelm. that sort of thing</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Silver</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Silver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 17:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Grace- Yup, segmented lists are the bomb. :) Never too early to start, even if you don&#039;t use&#039;em much.

@JoVE- I so agree with you. Giving a couple of options can be really helpful, especially if you lean into the one you recommend more strongly: &quot;Here&#039;s the ideal thing I&#039;d love for you to do. And here&#039;s another option that will still help you.&quot;

I think toddlers is an excellent metaphor- I know I can feel young and helpless as a client in these situations. :)

@Jessica- Well, that&#039;s an entirely different story. How about- &quot;Hey, after thinking it through and seeing what you really need, what I&#039;d like to do is refer you to this other person, X. I&#039;ve already spoken to them in general- I haven&#039;t given them any personal details, and they&#039;d be happy to talk to you. Can I connect you?&quot;

You can make it as seamless as possible, so they don&#039;t feel as if they are cast loose, you can preserve the relationship, and still move them on. They may still be a good source of happy karma and referrals down the road.

How does that sound?

And, incidentally, your last paragraph is why I decided to do HoB- business skills alone wasn&#039;t cutting it, and we needed some spiritual presence to deal with what&#039;s REALLY going on. :)

A third option is to work in tandem with, for instance, HoB, and say: &quot;I&#039;d love for you to work on X with someone from HoB and we can continue to support you with what you&#039;re wanting to get done.&quot;

My associate Jim is great with those things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Grace- Yup, segmented lists are the bomb. <img src='http://www.heartofbusiness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Never too early to start, even if you don&#8217;t use&#8217;em much.</p>
<p>@JoVE- I so agree with you. Giving a couple of options can be really helpful, especially if you lean into the one you recommend more strongly: &#8220;Here&#8217;s the ideal thing I&#8217;d love for you to do. And here&#8217;s another option that will still help you.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think toddlers is an excellent metaphor- I know I can feel young and helpless as a client in these situations. <img src='http://www.heartofbusiness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@Jessica- Well, that&#8217;s an entirely different story. How about- &#8220;Hey, after thinking it through and seeing what you really need, what I&#8217;d like to do is refer you to this other person, X. I&#8217;ve already spoken to them in general- I haven&#8217;t given them any personal details, and they&#8217;d be happy to talk to you. Can I connect you?&#8221;</p>
<p>You can make it as seamless as possible, so they don&#8217;t feel as if they are cast loose, you can preserve the relationship, and still move them on. They may still be a good source of happy karma and referrals down the road.</p>
<p>How does that sound?</p>
<p>And, incidentally, your last paragraph is why I decided to do HoB- business skills alone wasn&#8217;t cutting it, and we needed some spiritual presence to deal with what&#8217;s REALLY going on. <img src='http://www.heartofbusiness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>A third option is to work in tandem with, for instance, HoB, and say: &#8220;I&#8217;d love for you to work on X with someone from HoB and we can continue to support you with what you&#8217;re wanting to get done.&#8221;</p>
<p>My associate Jim is great with those things.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 16:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JoVE--I love that approach, giving them two choices. Like you, one of the reasons I often step back and say, &quot;It&#039;s up to you,&quot; is because I want my client to be in control, but narrowing things down for them feels good for both of us. Thank you for the food for thought!

Mark--What do you say when you don&#039;t really want to continue with a client ;-). (Not that that happens very often, just that every once in awhile, I really do mean, &quot;Well, if you really, really want to work with me again, I guess that&#039;s okay, but are you sure you wouldn&#039;t rather work with someone else?&quot;)

I&#039;ve definitely been sensing that I&#039;m throwing too much at a few of my clients lately and need to take a step back and just let things proceed more slowly. (In both cases, they&#039;re frustrated that their businesses aren&#039;t growing, and I know that x, y, and z will help them, but when I try to get us started all at once, I&#039;m also sensing them pulling back.) I think some of their hurry up-slow down is fear that they&#039;ll be left behind (which is a fear I deeply relate to and want to help them avoid), so I wonder what would happen if I just let them know that they can take their time.

Thanks for the wonderful post!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jessica´s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thriveyourtribe.com/tyt/blog/is-your-designer-ignoring-every-word-you-say/&quot;&gt;Is Your Designer Ignoring Every Word You Say?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JoVE&#8211;I love that approach, giving them two choices. Like you, one of the reasons I often step back and say, &#8220;It&#8217;s up to you,&#8221; is because I want my client to be in control, but narrowing things down for them feels good for both of us. Thank you for the food for thought!</p>
<p>Mark&#8211;What do you say when you don&#8217;t really want to continue with a client <img src='http://www.heartofbusiness.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> . (Not that that happens very often, just that every once in awhile, I really do mean, &#8220;Well, if you really, really want to work with me again, I guess that&#8217;s okay, but are you sure you wouldn&#8217;t rather work with someone else?&#8221;)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve definitely been sensing that I&#8217;m throwing too much at a few of my clients lately and need to take a step back and just let things proceed more slowly. (In both cases, they&#8217;re frustrated that their businesses aren&#8217;t growing, and I know that x, y, and z will help them, but when I try to get us started all at once, I&#8217;m also sensing them pulling back.) I think some of their hurry up-slow down is fear that they&#8217;ll be left behind (which is a fear I deeply relate to and want to help them avoid), so I wonder what would happen if I just let them know that they can take their time.</p>
<p>Thanks for the wonderful post!</p>
<p><abbr><em>Jessica´s last blog post..<a href="http://www.thriveyourtribe.com/tyt/blog/is-your-designer-ignoring-every-word-you-say/">Is Your Designer Ignoring Every Word You Say?</a></em></abbr></p>
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